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Xiren
02.08.2008, 12:49
????????? ???????, ???? ?????????? ??????? ????????? ????????? ?????????????? ?????? ?????? ?????? ? ???????? (?????? pdf), ?? ??????? ??? ????? ?????????. ??????????? ?? ??? ?????? mailbox.

?? ????? ??????, ????? ? ?????????????? ???????? ? ?? ?????? ???? ????????? ?? ??????? ??????. ???? ????? ???? ?? ???????, ???????? ??????????? ?????????? ?????? ?? ? ??-?? ???????. ?????? ??? ???????, ???????????????? ??????????? ?????????, ??? ????????????? ?? ?????????.

???????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?????? ? ???????? (B&E) ?? ?????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????? ??????????? ???????? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????. ???????? ????????? - ??? ?? ????????? ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??????????. ????? ????? ?????? ????? ???????? ????????????????. ??? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ? ? ????????????? ?????????. ??-??????, ? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ?????????: B&E ???????? ??????? ???? ?? ?????? ????????????, ? ???????? - ?? 2 ?????? ?? ???????, ? ?????? ??????????, ???????????? ? ????????????? ?????????. ??-??????, ???????? ??????? ?????? ??????????????? ??????????, ? B&E ?????? ?????????????. ??? ??? ???????? ????? ?? ???????? ?????? B&E ?? ????? ???? ???????? ??? ???????????? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????.

Xiren
04.08.2008, 11:15
?????????? ??? ? ????? ????????????? ??????????? ?? ???????????? ?.?.?????????, ? ?????? ????? ? ????? ? ??????? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????. ??? ?????????? ??????? ??????. ???? ?????????? ????-?? ??????????, ?? ??? ??????, ? ???? ???, ?? ???? ???????. ?? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ?? ???????.

Eraser
04.08.2008, 15:39
?????????? ??? ? ????? ????????????? ??????????? ?? ???????????? ?.?.?????????, ? ?????? ????? ? ????? ? ??????? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????. ??? ?????????? ??????? ??????. ???? ?????????? ????-?? ??????????, ?? ??? ??????, ? ???? ???, ?? ???? ???????. ?? ?? ?????? ?? ??? ????? ?? ???????.
???????? ???? ?? ????? ?????????? ?????? ??-??????????? ? ?? ???. ????? ? ?? ??? ??? ????? - ?????? ?? ??? ?????????? ??????? ??? ? ???, ?? ?? ???? ????????????? ? ?????????? ????? ???????????. ????? ? ??????? ????? ??-??? ? ?????????? ????, ? ??????? ???????.

gm
04.08.2008, 18:33
?????????? ??? ? ????? ????????????? ??????????? ?? ???????????? ?.?.?????????, ? ?????? ????? ? ????? ? ??????? ??????????? ????? ?? ???????.
??? ?????????? ??, ??? ?? ??????????? ????????? ?? ?????????? ??? ????? ?????, ???? ????? ? ??? ????????? ????????? ????

Biologist
04.08.2008, 20:39
???????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?????? ? ???????? (B&E) ?? ?????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ???????? ??????????? ???????? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????. ???????? ????????? - ??? ?? ????????? ?? ??? ?? ??????? ??????????. ????? ????? ?????? ????? ???????? ????????????????. ??? ?????? ?????? ?????????? ? ? ????????????? ?????????. ??-??????, ? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ?????????: B&E ???????? ??????? ???? ?? ?????? ????????????, ? ???????? - ?? 2 ?????? ?? ???????, ? ?????? ??????????, ???????????? ? ????????????? ?????????. ??-??????, ???????? ??????? ?????? ??????????????? ??????????, ? B&E ?????? ?????????????. ??? ??? ???????? ????? ?? ???????? ?????? B&E ?? ????? ???? ???????? ??? ???????????? ??????? ??? ?? ?????????.

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The problem
05.08.2008, 14:55
?????? ?????? ??? ?????? ??? ???, ? ????????????? ?????? ????????? ???, ?????? ?????, ?????? ??? ?????? ???? ?? ? ? ???? ??????, ? ?????? ?? ????? ???? ????? ????????? ????????, ?? ?????????? ????? ?? ????????????? (????????? ??????? ?????????????)

kb
05.08.2008, 19:09
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?????????? ??????, ????????? ?????????? ?? ??????? ?????? ? ???????? ???????? ??? ????????. ???? ??????? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? - ?????? ?????????? ?????? "???????" ?? ??????? "????????? ? ??????".

1) ??????????, ?????????????? ?????? ?? ????????? ???????????????? ???????? ??????????? ???. ???? ???????? ?????? ?? ???????. "???? ?? ??????? ????? ??????" - ?? ????? ?????? ????????.

2) ??? ?????? ??????? ????????????? ????? ????????, ?????? ? ????? ????????? "????????????????? ?????". ??? ??????? ??????? ???????? ? ????.

3) ???????, ?????????????, ????? ???? ?? ??????? ???????? ??????? ?????????? ? ???? ???????. ?????? ????? ?????????? ??????? ???????, ?????????? ??????? ???????? ? ???, ??? ?????? ? ??????????? ?? ??????????? ??????? ?????????? ????????? ??????? ? ??????????????????? ????????????. ???????, ??? ??? ?? ???? ???? ????? ???????? ??????????? ? ?????? ?? ???????? ?????????.

??? ? ?????? ?????? ????????? ??????, ? ?? ??????? ???????????? ?? ???????????? ???????? ????????. ?????? ??????? ????? ????????????, ??? ?????????????? ? ?????? ?&? ???????? ??????????????? ??????? ????? ????? ???? ??????????? ???????????? ???????. ??? ???????, ??? ?????? ????????? ????????????? ????? ??????, ? ?? ????????????? ????? ????????? ?????? ??????????????.

? ??????? ??? ????? ???: ? ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????????? ????????????? ???????? ?? ?????????????? ????????????????? ?????????. ?????? ???????? ????????????????? ??????? ?????? ????????? ?????? ? ??. ? ???? ???? ???????? ? ??? ??????????? ???? ?????? ? ?????????? ??????? ??????????.


Feed (from Materials and Methods section).
Soybeans were obtained from the 2000 crop from a
seed dealer who identified an isolated conventional field
and a transgenic soybean field in eastern South Dakota.
Samples were taken directly from the combine from the
middle of each large field. All soybeans were transported
to North Dakota State University for extrusion
and drying of meal. South Dakota State University
Chemistry Analytical Lab analyzed grain samples for
crude protein, crude fiber, crude fat (ether extract),
Ca+ and K+. Purina Test Diet (Richmond, IN) formulated
rations using transgenic soybeans and conventional
soybeans and corn. Chemical composition of
each ration is shown in Table 1. The transgenic ration
contained 21.35% glyphosate-tolerant soybeans by
weight. This percentage was used because it is the highest
percentage allowed that still maintained a balanced
rodent diet. The diet is certified by the Purina Company.

Eraser
06.08.2008, 10:13
??, ????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? ?????, ??? ?????????????? ???????????? ? B&E ? ?.?. ????????? ??????? ? ??????? ?????????? ??? ???????????? ????????. ??? ???????????? ?? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? - ?????? ??-?? ?????????? ??? ???????, ?????? ??-?? ?????????? ?????????????, ??? ?????????????? ??? ???? ?? 100% ???????????.
???? ? ???? ?????? ???????????? B&E ???????? ????? ????????????, ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????, ? ?? ??? ????? ??????????????? ?????????, ????? ????????? ? ????????? ????????? (http://www.purina.com/), ?????? ????????? ??????????????.

Xiren
06.08.2008, 12:36
??, ????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? ?????, ??? ?????????????? ???????????? ? B&E ? ?.?. ????????? ??????? ? ??????? ?????????? ??? ???????????? ????????. ??? ???????????? ?? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? - ?????? ??-?? ?????????? ??? ???????, ?????? ??-?? ?????????? ?????????????, ??? ?????????????? ??? ???? ?? 100% ???????????.
???? ? ???? ?????? ???????????? B&E ???????? ????? ????????????, ?? ?????? ?????? ???? ????????? ?????, ? ?? ??? ????? ??????????????? ?????????, ????? ????????? ? ????????? ????????? (http://www.purina.com/), ?????? ????????? ??????????????.

? ?????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ???? ? ?? ??, ?? ???? ?????? ?????? ????????????? ??? ??????, ???????? ?? ???????? ????? ?????????, ? ??? ????? ?????????.
??? ??? ????? ??????? - ??? ????????? ? ????????? ????????, ? ?? ????????????? ????????????.

Xiren
06.08.2008, 13:39
??, ????? ??????? ?????? ?? ????????? ?????, ??? ?????????????? ???????????? ? B&E ? ?.?. ????????? ??????? ? ??????? ?????????? ??? ???????????? ????????. ??? ???????????? ?? ?????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? - ?????? ??-?? ?????????? ??? ???????, ?????? ??-?? ?????????? ?????????????, ??? ?????????????? ??? ???? ?? 100% ???????????.

??? ???????????? B&E ? ?.?. ?????????, ???????????? ? ???? ???????????, ? ?? ????????. ??? ??????????, ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????. ??????, ?? ?? ????? ????? ???????????? ??? ? ????????? ???????.:cool:

Eraser
06.08.2008, 13:44
??? ??? ???? ? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ???????????? ?????????? ? ??????????? ????????.
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??? ????????? ??????????????????? ???????????? ? "??????????? ??????" ????? ????? ??? - ? ??????? ???? ? ??? ? ??? ??? ?????????, ? ???????? ??? ???????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ???????????? ?????. ??????? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ? ?????????? ??????? ????????????.

Eraser
06.08.2008, 13:54
??? ???????????? B&E ? ?.?. ?????????, ???????????? ? ???? ???????????, ? ?? ????????. ??? ??????????, ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????. ??????, ?? ?? ????? ????? ???????????? ??? ? ????????? ???????.:cool:
??? ????? ????? ?? ????????? ?? ????? ??????????? ???????????? ??? ?????????. ??????? ??? ?????????.
? ????? ?????? ???????? ???? (??????? ???????? ???) ??? ?????????????? ??????? ????? ??-?????????? ? ?????????? ??????????? ???????? ????????. ? ??? ? ??? ?????????? ???, ??????? ??????????? ?????? ??????????????????? ???????????. ????? ???? ? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ???? ????????, ????????? ??????? ???? ????????? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ???.

Xiren
06.08.2008, 14:36
??? ??? ???? ? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ???????????? ?????????? ? ??????????? ????????.
???? ???????? ????????, ?? ?? ????? ??????? ??????????? ????????? ?????????????, ????? ??? ????????? ? ????????? ? ?????????????? ?????? ????????.
??? ????????? ??????????????????? ???????????? ? "??????????? ??????" ????? ????? ??? - ? ??????? ???? ? ??? ? ??? ??? ?????????, ? ???????? ??? ???????? ? ???? ??????? ?? ???????????? ?????. ??????? ??????????? ???????? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ? ?????????? ??????? ????????????.

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Xiren
06.08.2008, 14:40
??? ????? ????? ?? ????????? ?? ????? ??????????? ???????????? ??? ?????????. ??????? ??? ?????????.
? ????? ?????? ???????? ???? (??????? ???????? ???) ??? ?????????????? ??????? ????? ??-?????????? ? ?????????? ??????????? ???????? ????????. ? ??? ? ??? ?????????? ???, ??????? ??????????? ?????? ??????????????????? ???????????. ????? ???? ? ??????? ?? ???????? ?? ???? ????????, ????????? ??????? ???? ????????? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ???.

??? ?? ????? ?????? ???????? ????, ? ????? ???????????????? ?????.

The problem
06.08.2008, 14:42
??? ???????????? B&E ? ?.?. ?????????, ???????????? ? ???? ???????????, ? ?? ????????. ??? ??????????, ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ????????. ??????, ?? ?? ????? ????? ???????????? ??? ? ????????? ???????.:cool:

? ???? ???? ?????, ? ????? ????? ????? ??????? ?? ????????????, ??? ?????? ?. ????. ?????-?? ????, ? ?????? ???, ???? ?????? ??? ??? ????????? ?????????? ??? ??????? ? ????????? ??????- ???? ? ??????????? ????? ??????????? ?????????? ? ???? ????? ????????, ? ????????? ??????? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????????? ?????????. ? ??????, ???? ???? ?????????, ?????? ? ???????????????? ??????????? ????? ????????? ????????? ?????????? ?? ???????? ?????? ????????????? ??????, ??? ??????? ???????. ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ?????? ???, ? ?? ?????? ???- ?????? ??????? ?????????? ?????????? ???? ?????? ?? ??????????? ??? ?????????? ???????

Eraser
06.08.2008, 14:43
??? ???? ? ??? ?? ???? ? ??? ????????? ??????? ? ????. ??? ??????? ???? ??????, ? ???? ??????????.:(
???? ??????? ? ????? ??????, ? ??????????? ??????????? ? ??????????? ???????????? ???????? ??????? - ??? ?? ?? ?? ????? ??? ?????? ?????
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Eraser
06.08.2008, 14:44
??? ?? ????? ?????? ???????? ????, ? ????? ???????????????? ?????.
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